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		<title>By: Superprofessors have a lot to learn. &#124; More or Less Bunk</title>
		<link>http://moreorlessbunk.wordpress.com/2013/02/20/frankenmoocs-and-zombie-profs/#comment-7217</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Superprofessors have a lot to learn. &#124; More or Less Bunk]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Mar 2013 13:01:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] is how you create FrankenMOOCs and zombie profs: Plug and chug any professor&#8217;s particular course details (grading preferences, subject [...]]]></description>
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		<title>By: What if superprofessors aren&#8217;t really all that super? &#124; More or Less Bunk</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[What if superprofessors aren&#8217;t really all that super? &#124; More or Less Bunk]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Feb 2013 14:01:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] professors at &#8220;A&#8221; institutions deserve to be treated differently? With two Coursera trainwrecks under our belts now, it seems pretty darned obvious that those two superprofessors at [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] professors at &#8220;A&#8221; institutions deserve to be treated differently? With two Coursera trainwrecks under our belts now, it seems pretty darned obvious that those two superprofessors at [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Today in MOOCs &#171; Gerry Canavan</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Today in MOOCs &#171; Gerry Canavan]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Feb 2013 01:13:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] * FrankenMOOCs and zombie profs. [...]]]></description>
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		<title>By: Jonathan Rees</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jonathan Rees]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Feb 2013 21:01:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Anne,

Considering how much you disagree with me I&#039;m touched that you&#039;re still reading.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Anne,</p>
<p>Considering how much you disagree with me I&#8217;m touched that you&#8217;re still reading.</p>
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		<title>By: Mazel</title>
		<link>http://moreorlessbunk.wordpress.com/2013/02/20/frankenmoocs-and-zombie-profs/#comment-6096</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mazel]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Feb 2013 16:50:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Looks to me like Section 4 could be strengthened. It says, &quot;The course cannot be leased, sold, or transferred to a third party without written permission or license from each author of copyrighted works contained in the course.&quot; OK, so the professor could easily make sure that the course contains required material to which she has the copyright, and that would give her the power to prevent the university from leasing, selling, or transferring the course to a third party, but it wouldn&#039;t give her the power to prevent the university itself (the university not being a &quot;third party&quot;) from offering the course under another instructor.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Looks to me like Section 4 could be strengthened. It says, &#8220;The course cannot be leased, sold, or transferred to a third party without written permission or license from each author of copyrighted works contained in the course.&#8221; OK, so the professor could easily make sure that the course contains required material to which she has the copyright, and that would give her the power to prevent the university from leasing, selling, or transferring the course to a third party, but it wouldn&#8217;t give her the power to prevent the university itself (the university not being a &#8220;third party&#8221;) from offering the course under another instructor.</p>
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		<title>By: Leslie Madsen-Brooks (@lesliemb)</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Leslie Madsen-Brooks (@lesliemb)]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Feb 2013 16:39:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Boise State claims copyright to online courses developed for Boise State, and faculty must get permission to offer the same course content elsewhere.  &lt;a href=&quot;http://ecampus.boisestate.edu/faculty/ip-policy/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Here&#039;s the intellectual property policy&lt;/a&gt;.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Boise State claims copyright to online courses developed for Boise State, and faculty must get permission to offer the same course content elsewhere.  <a href="http://ecampus.boisestate.edu/faculty/ip-policy/" rel="nofollow">Here&#8217;s the intellectual property policy</a>.</p>
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		<title>By: Anne Corner</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Anne Corner]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Feb 2013 15:46:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[For once I agree with you absolutely.  No course should be cast in stone and a course without a professor is ridiculous.  We are back to high school textbooks (and we all know how enlightening they are) without professors.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For once I agree with you absolutely.  No course should be cast in stone and a course without a professor is ridiculous.  We are back to high school textbooks (and we all know how enlightening they are) without professors.</p>
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		<title>By: Mazel</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mazel]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Feb 2013 15:25:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Yes, yes, and yes. You&#039;re right that &quot;the idea that your class can go on without you ought to strike fear in the hearts of professors everywhere.&quot; One thing this means is that we should all be paying attention to things like our institutions&#039; intellectual property policies. Such policies should ensure your ability to be the only one who teaches any course you develop. It&#039;s all well and good to discuss MOOCs and the like in the abstract, but much of the game will actually be played down in the bureaucratic trenches, in debates over things like these:

-- Intellectual Property policy. If the university wants to continue making money offering a course you&#039;ve developed, will it have to keep you on the payroll, or can it fire you and hand your course off to a drone?

-- Credit for Prior Learning policy. This and similar policies, e.g., transfer credit and test-out policies, will determine how, if at all, students at your institution can get credit for things like MOOCs.

-- Student Learning Outcomes (and how they&#039;re assessed). The supposed equivalence of a MOOC to a real course will largely be justified using SLOs as the criteria. Of course, such justification is bogus; it&#039;s a logical error (reductive fallacy) to say that the full range of pedagogical benefits a student gets from a course can be reduced to a list of a half dozen bullet points. Just because two courses do an equallly good job of &quot;addressing&quot; a set of SLOs does not mean they&#039;re equally good courses; you can scale it down, but you can&#039;t necessarily scale it back up. Unfortunately, this kind of reductive thinking is the very lifeblood of the &quot;accountability&quot; and &quot;assessment&quot; mania plaguing higher ed. (Ditto for K-12 &quot;education reform.&quot;)

So, are things happening in your courses that aren&#039;t happening, or better yet, CAN&#039;T happen in a MOOC? Then find a way to articulate those things in higher-ed bureaucratese and get them listed on the departmental or institutional syllabus as student learning outcomes. If things at your institution work anything like they do at mine, what&#039;s likely to happen is something like this: sooner or later, someone will ask an advisor if they can get credit for a MOOC. The adviser will phone the Records Office and ask the transfer coordinator, who will kick it to a department chair, who will say, &quot;Wait a minute, let me look at the institutional syllabus.... Nope, no can do. This course requires that students &#039;demonstrate the ability to work collaboratively to describe a historical controversy and convey that knowledge to the public.&#039; In our classes, students do this by presenting their work in poster sessions during Student Scholar Days, but the MOOC doesn&#039;t require students to do anything remotely like that. So, sorry. If the MOOC doesn&#039;t address the SLOs, we just can&#039;t award credit for it.&quot;

There are all kinds of pedagogically wonderful activities that can be done F2F (or even in an online class of a dozen or two students) that are impossible to do in a MOOC. We need to get those things embedded into our courses and policies in all the places where the bureaucracy can see them, planting them in all the right places for the MOOCsters to trip over them later.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, yes, and yes. You&#8217;re right that &#8220;the idea that your class can go on without you ought to strike fear in the hearts of professors everywhere.&#8221; One thing this means is that we should all be paying attention to things like our institutions&#8217; intellectual property policies. Such policies should ensure your ability to be the only one who teaches any course you develop. It&#8217;s all well and good to discuss MOOCs and the like in the abstract, but much of the game will actually be played down in the bureaucratic trenches, in debates over things like these:</p>
<p>&#8211; Intellectual Property policy. If the university wants to continue making money offering a course you&#8217;ve developed, will it have to keep you on the payroll, or can it fire you and hand your course off to a drone?</p>
<p>&#8211; Credit for Prior Learning policy. This and similar policies, e.g., transfer credit and test-out policies, will determine how, if at all, students at your institution can get credit for things like MOOCs.</p>
<p>&#8211; Student Learning Outcomes (and how they&#8217;re assessed). The supposed equivalence of a MOOC to a real course will largely be justified using SLOs as the criteria. Of course, such justification is bogus; it&#8217;s a logical error (reductive fallacy) to say that the full range of pedagogical benefits a student gets from a course can be reduced to a list of a half dozen bullet points. Just because two courses do an equallly good job of &#8220;addressing&#8221; a set of SLOs does not mean they&#8217;re equally good courses; you can scale it down, but you can&#8217;t necessarily scale it back up. Unfortunately, this kind of reductive thinking is the very lifeblood of the &#8220;accountability&#8221; and &#8220;assessment&#8221; mania plaguing higher ed. (Ditto for K-12 &#8220;education reform.&#8221;)</p>
<p>So, are things happening in your courses that aren&#8217;t happening, or better yet, CAN&#8217;T happen in a MOOC? Then find a way to articulate those things in higher-ed bureaucratese and get them listed on the departmental or institutional syllabus as student learning outcomes. If things at your institution work anything like they do at mine, what&#8217;s likely to happen is something like this: sooner or later, someone will ask an advisor if they can get credit for a MOOC. The adviser will phone the Records Office and ask the transfer coordinator, who will kick it to a department chair, who will say, &#8220;Wait a minute, let me look at the institutional syllabus&#8230;. Nope, no can do. This course requires that students &#8216;demonstrate the ability to work collaboratively to describe a historical controversy and convey that knowledge to the public.&#8217; In our classes, students do this by presenting their work in poster sessions during Student Scholar Days, but the MOOC doesn&#8217;t require students to do anything remotely like that. So, sorry. If the MOOC doesn&#8217;t address the SLOs, we just can&#8217;t award credit for it.&#8221;</p>
<p>There are all kinds of pedagogically wonderful activities that can be done F2F (or even in an online class of a dozen or two students) that are impossible to do in a MOOC. We need to get those things embedded into our courses and policies in all the places where the bureaucracy can see them, planting them in all the right places for the MOOCsters to trip over them later.</p>
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		<title>By: derekbruff</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[derekbruff]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Feb 2013 14:43:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;m not sure if &quot;zombie profs&quot; is the right metaphor, but this UC Irvine MOOC should be an interesting example of a &quot;zombie MOOC,&quot; carrying on after its instructor is gone. Given what I can observer of the dynamic of the course, I wonder if the MOOC will work a little better with the professor gone. Certainly, there&#039;s the possibility of more peer-to-peer learning within the course, leveraging the expertise of the more experienced students taking the course. One of the strengths of a MOOC is the incredibly diversity of experiences of students enrolled, although this example illustrates, I think, just how hard that diversity can be to leverage.

I&#039;ll add that the language &quot;Professor Smith&#039;s course&quot; can be problematic, too. I&#039;ve worked with departments on curriculum redesign efforts which were impeded by professors who thought of their courses as &quot;theirs&quot;... and couldn&#039;t think deeply about how &quot;their&quot; courses fit within, say, an undergraduate major experience. Our students don&#039;t experience the courses they take in isolation, and so it&#039;s important to think of how they fit together. Courses, on some level, &quot;belong&quot; to the curriculum.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m not sure if &#8220;zombie profs&#8221; is the right metaphor, but this UC Irvine MOOC should be an interesting example of a &#8220;zombie MOOC,&#8221; carrying on after its instructor is gone. Given what I can observer of the dynamic of the course, I wonder if the MOOC will work a little better with the professor gone. Certainly, there&#8217;s the possibility of more peer-to-peer learning within the course, leveraging the expertise of the more experienced students taking the course. One of the strengths of a MOOC is the incredibly diversity of experiences of students enrolled, although this example illustrates, I think, just how hard that diversity can be to leverage.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ll add that the language &#8220;Professor Smith&#8217;s course&#8221; can be problematic, too. I&#8217;ve worked with departments on curriculum redesign efforts which were impeded by professors who thought of their courses as &#8220;theirs&#8221;&#8230; and couldn&#8217;t think deeply about how &#8220;their&#8221; courses fit within, say, an undergraduate major experience. Our students don&#8217;t experience the courses they take in isolation, and so it&#8217;s important to think of how they fit together. Courses, on some level, &#8220;belong&#8221; to the curriculum.</p>
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